Friday, August 10, 2012

Catholic News Service: John Rao on the Traditionalist Movement

Check out these clips of John Rao, head of the Roman Forum, talking about the traditionalist movement. He makes insightful comments on the state of affairs today in the church and their cause. Also, you may want to check out the Roman Forum's website for more information: http://www.romanforum.org


3 comments:

  1. Traditionalists need to choose between Feenyism or Cushingism.

    SSPX CAN ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS ACCORDING TO FR.LEONARD FEENEY AND NOT RICHARD CUSHING

    Vatican Council II says outside the Church there is no salvation and is in agreement with the Syllabus of Errors, Mystici Corporis,Quanto Conficiamus etc.

    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/sspx-can-accept-vatican-council-ii-in.html#links

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  2. If Rome is asleep then it is the traditionalists job to get Rome to wake up- John Rao
    If Rome is asleep, in a traditionalist's mind, then it is the traditionalists job to get Rome to wake up- John Rao Part 3.( 0:56 ).Sometimes Rome seems to be asleep.

    Rome was asleep when it followed the Richard Cushing Error and ignored the traditional path of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

    Rome has to wake up to a fact, an objective error, that the dead saved in invincinble ignorance and the baptism of desire cannot be seen. They are not known to us. So they cannot be cited as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

    So Lumen Gentium 16 does not contradict the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation.

    George Brenner says in a comment on the vlog EucharistandMission:

    At some point, Church history will recognize that the Cardinal Cushing versus Father Leonard Feeney stance on Salvation was a critical juncture of truth versus error. The path we went down was the Cushing path which will be reversed, clarified and healed.
    -Lionel Andrades

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  3. ROMAN FORUM MEETS AND THEIR DISSENT IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE

    The Roman Forum has met this summer in Gardone, Italy and the confusion is still expected to continue. Mons.Ignacio Barreiro, Brian Mcall and others are still not willing to say in public that invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are not explicit exceptions to the dogma and Fr.Leonard Feeney.This issue is at the centre of present dissent and so like John Rao, Chairman of the Roman Forum and members of the Society of St.Pius X and liberals, they teach dissent on this subject.


    Mons. Barrero participating in the Roman Forum offers the Traditional Latin Rite Mass when in Rome and he is not going to affirm the literal interpretation of the dogma to protect his reputation and interests. Similarly the Australian Fr.Joseph Kramer (FSSP) also denies the traditional interpretation of the dogma. He offers the Traditional Latin Mass in Rome.There is no difference between him and the liberal Novus Ordo priests.


    So if Christopher Ferrara and the others at the Roman Forum cannot state that there are no known exceptions to Fr.Leonard Feeney's doctrinal position on salvation dissent will continue in the Catholic Church and they are a part of it.It is easy for Mons. Ignacio Barreiro to speak at conferences in guarded language but to affirm the faith in public is difficult for him on the issue of the salvation dogma.Even Hilary White and LifeSites.com do not want to discuss this issue.


    Their doctrinal position on salvation is irrational and non traditional. Some of them probably know the truth but they are afraid to affirm the faith in public.-Lionel Andrades

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